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LMC:
Do you do much hobby or personal projects on the side?
LR:
I
used to do a lot of makeups and stuff, personal stuff, but over the
last year and a half I've concentrated on masks. I've also spent the
last 10 months on a toy prototype. I'm also redoing my house,
which is like a second profession in Los Angeles.
LMC:
What do you like to create when doing your own work?
LR:
I
don't have one specific thing I like to do. I like to do little
doodles and then I go from there. I'm not much of an illustrator,
but I can scribble well enough to get an exaggerated version of what
i want to do. When I have enough of those, I usually pick one and
do it. I have tons of little drawings waiting to get
"green-lighted". I do like to invent new ways of doing
things-looking at it from a different angle. I also like to direct
things- I'm a big picture type person. It was what I was known for
in advertising but I haven't really had a chance to put that to work
in the entertainment business. Yet.
LMC:
So, do you have bigger plans for the future in the way of feature
films?
LR:
When I say direct, I don't mean specifically being a film director.
I mean "guiding the ship" no matter what the project. But I have
directed on film, in advertising and shorts, and would like to
do it again.
LMC:
What
was your first big break in the fx business?
LR:
My first break was with Steve Johnson.
But let me back up. My first interview was with Rick Baker. When
Planet of the Apes was just getting started, Rick was interviewing.
I have been told it is a miracle that I got in there. Actually, I
think Dick probably made a phone call behind my back but I haven't
been able to confirm it yet. Anyway, I go to his office. His
assistant Heidi, leads me in and up this huge staircase. Rick
"appears" out of the shadows. I think he did this on purpose; he's
a very theatrical guy. Anyway, he leads me down this hall and this
HUGE grim reaper is sitting at the end of the hall. He opens the
door to his office and it is like a castle. AMAZING. a giant
fireplace with stone flying monkeys on either side. If you want to
have an idea what his office looks like, rent THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE
because I think he bought the set and used it for the innards of his
office. Anyway, we sat down and chatted like kids for over an
hour. He was very generous to me. He didn't have to do that at all.
Bottom line was, this was my first job in Hollywood and he already
had 10 guys who he could call to do exactly what he needed. So the
job was not mine. I think I begged, I don't remember, but that was
one of the most memorable experience I've had out here. I'll never
forget it. Every other interview was kind of a let down after that.
Now that I think about it, I may not want to work for Rick ever,
because it will spoil the fantasy in my head.
Back
to Steve. He was really cool to give me my first opportunity. It
was for a movie called THE DANGEROUS LIVES OF ALTAR BOYS- a Jodie
Foster movie (haven't seen it yet) making an animatronic cougar. I
did a lot of the fur transfer work, helping out Lenny McDonald, who
is an amazing artist. So I have to say, thank you Steve Johnson,
for giving me a chance.
LMC:
So, you didn’t get the job with Rick? Do you think you will work
for him in the future when his shop is back in full force?
LR:
No, I didn't get the job. I think my head would have exploded if my
first job was at Rick's shop! No actually, I would have been lost
and probably humiliated. They do things on such a high level and I
simply was no where near that level when I first came.
Part
of me would like to work with him because it is a dream of mine, and
part of me doesn't want to work with him because again, it is a
dream of mine, if that makes any sense. Sometimes your fantasy of
how something will be is very different from the reality of it.
LMC:
Talk about your work on Buffy? Six Feet Under?
LR:
Six
Feet Under was cool because I got called in and the Art Director
and Todd Masters were out of town, so I got to kind of take over in
the art direction. It was just me calling the shots on the
sculpting and I was able to call in some friends in the biz to help
out. I designed and sculpted the prosthetics. Someone else did the
painting, hair and the makeup application. That was neat. And of
course some of us were lucky enough to get rewarded on that one
with an Emmy.
One good thing I can say about my Buffy
experience is that I got to watch my friend Jonathan Fuller come
into the business. He did great his very first day. I would have
taken twice as long to do what he did, I think. And I got to watch
Mark Alfrey sculpt.
I
learned a hell of a lot from just observing him.
LMC:
Some
of the movies you worked on; Rose Red, Windtalkers, Scooby Doo,
others...
LR:
Windtalkers was great not only because I made a lot of good friends
there, but I got to work with the amazing Kevin Yagher. He is
supremely talented. He knows what he wants and he is one of the few
big guys who is hands on in the shop, so you can learn from him. I
was lucky in that show in that I got called back after everyone was
laid off and got to continue sculpting make-ups. Probably because I
was cheap! I was crazy on that show in that I asked to do
everything the second day I was there- I was fearless. Scooby Doo,
and Henson's in general was great. The art director there, Pete
Brooks, is a really good manager of his artists-probably my
favorite- he let us do our job with a gentle guiding hand. I got to
work closely with the producers of The Country Bears, and Scooby Doo,
and Stuart Little 2. I designed and sculpted Scrappy Doo, although
what you see in the movie is changed from my design. I think mine
looks much more "scrappy". A bunch of us sculpted Scooby- I think
about 4 people. Scooby was the shop whore- he got passed around a
lot! No real story about Rose Red- I just helped out with the teeth
for a few days. I just worked on a movie called WHITE CHICKS with
Greg Cannom's shop in which we turned two of the Wayans Brothers
into hot, blonde white chicks. That should be fun to see.
LMC:
Any not so good experiences that you can share (names can be left
out )?
LR:
I'd prefer not to go into that. You
can infer from the rest of the interview that I have had bad
experiences on some jobs. Most of them have been from personality
clashes or
creative differences.
LMC:
A lot
of aspiring artists dream of sculpting for tv/ movies. What is the
reality of it once you are doing it? Have any of your views
changed since you've been involved?
LR:
Sometimes it's great, most of the time it's not. (I am
referring specifically to working in an
fx shop, not applying make-up or doing the fx for an independent
film) I think we believe that we are going to be called in to show
our creativity, to solve problems. The reality is you are called in
as a tool and you must sculpt something that's already designed. If
it's a cool design, then maybe you can get excited about it. If
it's not... you just have to do it. I think it all comes down to
the way the business is run. If there is a general respect for the
employees, you'll feel better about what you're doing. I really
felt like I was a part of Henson's. Other shops, you are nothing
and are treated as such. It is disgusting.
LMC:
What
is the reality of the tv/ movie industry from an insider? What is
good, what is bad?
LR:
From my limited experience. It has been both good and bad for the
above reasons. Some experiences have been great, others have shaken
me to the core.
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