How is that progressing?
It comes and goes. You get bites here and there. Just this last week
it has been kind of a whirlwind. We've sent stuff out to a few
people connected to other TV shows. We've had some starts in the
past that haven't gone anywhere, so we don't want to jinx ourselves.
Would you still go for the Cops feel?
At the time that was about all we could do since we had a cheap
camera. Then we went to a digital camera and since have upgraded to
yet a better camera. So, the quality is improving alot. If we did
get a show, we would graduate to a much bigger production.
Were you guys wearing all the hats?
Oh yeah, everything. It was very tiring working nights and
Did both of you work on the script?
Matt and I imbued our sense of humor into it. There is alot of
potential to clash on it working together, but we build off each
other, just brain storming.
MR: When we get into arguments, we wind up with something even
We did a follow up to the film. In the
first one, Frank talks about teaching children about zombies using a
puppet show which was totally improvised by Frank. He just threw
that out while we were shooting and both of us had to leave the room
we were cracking up so much. So, we did a short feature of a puppet
show teaching about zombies.
LMC: I read the puppet show has lead to merchandising
possibilities for these zombie puppets?
that's another funny story. In an attempt to promote the zombies
film, we made a few for ComicCon with Frank there in character. We
built these 4 puppet zombies and brought them just as a prop on
display and people were coming by looking to buy the puppets. No
reaction to the video, they want the puppets. We had 2 or 3 toy
companies approach us to see if we wanted to do anything with it and
we were like, Yeah I guess. Soto toys is now going to carry them
definitely in time for Halloween.
Will this be something you can get at Spencers or your local novelty
Oh yeah, a number of them will be carrying it.
Online stuff too.
LMC: What plans do you have if the cable show doesn't pan
We recently have been talking about that. We've been working on a
feature script which is more ambitious, but we still want to keep an
Do you feel you can get your foot in the door easier with your
background and connections, plus the success of your first video?
We thought that it would. The biggest benefit
we bring is that we can get the FX done ourselves and not have to
explain the budget or where we would go to get that. Guillermo is a
big fan of zombies and he has actually attached his name to the
project just in the last few days, so that is a big help for us.
Tell us about your history at Cinovations. You guys have been at the
pinnacle of FX there for literally decades.
MR: I started at a few other shops but I've
been at Rick's for about 15 years straight. You work with the best
of the best. The best sculptors, the best hair people, the best
makeup people. It's amazing. We were able to snatch alot of those
people for Hellboy. Everyone was on Haunted Mansion and really
didn't know much about Hellboy, but we got a good number of them to
work with us. It was funny, everything was Haunted Mansion and by
the end everyone had on Hellboy hats and t-shirts. Over the years
it's been a buildup of great people there.
LMC: Do you have a notion of going off on your
own? Start your own shop?
Everything changed when Rick closed the doors. We were still in
Prague ending the Hellboy shoot.
Was it a surprise?
Yeah, pretty much a surprise for everyone. When we came back, we
didn't have anywhere to go. Having been there so long we weren't in
the groove of doing something by ourselves, but we are so busy with
our projects it has actually been great and allowed us to focus on
them and have the time to put into it and get it done. We are
definitely having to reevaluate what we do. Rick is starting up
again, but we don't know to what extent and for how long. Also,
Computer FX is cutting into the number of shows doing Creature FX.
It's a good wakeup call for us to look into other avenues and see
what we can do with our talents in other areas too.